Gaiaguys, apparently another UFO cult, is a website full of weird, confusing teachings and philosophies. The one that caught our eye was "Jesus is Lucifer" (now why would extra-terrestrials teach something likethat?). The only problem is, they have no proof as they are trying to use nonexistent Talmud passages and personal opinions. The only reason The Refiner's Fire is bothering to respond to this ludicrous website is to show the world how imperative it is to KNOW what the Bible says - because if we don't, we will fall for any wind of doctrine, no matter how ridiculous! Not knowing God's Word and being willing to listen to any "ear-tickling" ideology is a death knell: it is how the Antichrist will be able to deceive so many people....

Below is a sample of the muck that can be found at "gaiaguys" who base their beliefs on the "teachings" of an old Swiss gentleman, Eduard Meier, who was visited by and is supposedly in telepathic contact with a race of aliens who call themselves "Plejarens"; and the "Talmud Jmmanuel" - something that has been seen by just two earthlings (one of whom was conveniently assassinated).

Odd also, is the fact that the "Plejarens" communicate in German and are obvious anti-Semites - SIGH! because they seem to be extremely prejudiced against Israel and the Jews. (Makes one wonder if Hitler might have been a Plejaren....) To wit:

In "Talmud Jmmanuel", chapter 10, we find "Jmmanuel" saying:

26. "Truly, I say to you, the people of Israel were never one distinct people, and they have always lived by murder, robbery and fire. They gained possession of this land through guile and murder in reprehensible, predatory wars, where the best of friends were slaughtered like wild animals. The question begs to be asked: Are today's people so much better? When haven't there been "murders, robberies and wars"? Apparently, neither the "Plejarens" nor Eduard Meier, nor the "gaiaguys" have been watching world news lately....

27. "May the people of Israel be cursed until the end of the world, and never find their peace. The fact that even the "Plejarens" are picking on Israel shows that the Bible is right about the whole world hating Israel in the end times (Zechariah 12:1-5). Thus, another Bible prophecy is fulfilled....

(Amazingly, "Talmud Jmmanuel" - which was supposedly written by the traitor Judas and translated into German by Eduard Meier - comes across in King James style!) Anyone with the least iota of intelligence and knowledge of God's Word would instantly realize that Judas, a Jew and loyal disciple to Yeshua until just before Yeshua's death, would never have written the above about his own country and people; and Yeshua (our Savior, God Incarnate) would never have said "the people of Israel were never one distinct people" since He clearly told Abraham millenia ago that the Israelites were and always would be a distinct people!

Deuteronomy 7:6-8: For you are a people set apart as holy for ADONAI your God. ADONAI your God has chosen you out of all the peoples on the face of the earth to be his own unique treasure. 7 ADONAI didn't set his heart on you or choose you because you numbered more than any other people - on the contrary, you were the fewest of all peoples. 8 Rather, it was because ADONAI loved you, and because he wanted to keep the oath which he had sworn to your ancestors, that ADONAI brought you out with a strong hand and redeemed you from a life of slavery under the hand of Pharoah king of Egypt.

Jeremiah 31:35-37: This is what the LORD says, he who appoints the sun to shine by day, who decrees the moon and stars to shine by night, who stirs up the sea so that its waves roar- the LORD Almighty is his name: "Only if these decrees vanish from my sight," declares the LORD, "will the descendants of Israel ever cease to be a nation before me." This is what the LORD says: "Only if the heavens above can be measured and the foundations of the earth below be searched out will I reject all the descendants of Israel because of all they have done," declares the LORD.

What part of "forever" don't the "Plejarens", or Eduard Meier and all his sheeple understand? Since when does God go back on His Word?

"Talmud Jmmanuel" 145: The numerical value of 666 corresponds to the the German language values of God, Church, Christ and Jesus

The Refiner's Fire challenges the "gaiaguys" to furnish proof that the German language has numerical "values" since Hebrew is the only language whose letters and words have numerical values. In Hebrew the word "HaSatan" (Satan) adds up to 666....That's where the "666" idea originated. It's got nothing, whatsoever, to do with the German language. That, in itself, reveals that these people are frauds who are purposely trying to deceive the world.

Another thing to question is: Why do these aliens - the "Plejarens" speak German? Why would they be speaking any earthly language?

"Talmud Jmmanuel" 146: Jesus is the mendacious title for Jmmanuel who already during his life time rebelled against this title, because he recognised the future and knew what would be made out of him.

First of all, our Savior's name wasn't "Jesus", it was "Y'Shua" which means "Salvation". The "gaiaguys" have NOTHING to back up their ridiculous assertion that He ever "rebelled" against this "title". The Bible tells us that Yeshua PERFECTLY FULFILLED His calling - all the way to the cross!

"Talmud Jmmanuel" 147: Jesus is the value of anti-logos which, however, the Christian church falsified/turned into antichrist, wherefore also indeed the true teachings of Jmmanuel would be falsified to the point of being unrecognisable.

Again, German has NO numerical value, and in Hebrew Yeshua's certainly does not indicate "the value of anti-logos". And remember, "Talmud Jmmanuel" was supposedly written by Judas, the traitor who turned Yeshua in to the authorities....Why would anyone consider legitimate the supposed writings of a cowardly traitor who killed himself immediately after Yeshua's death?

Matthew 27: 5 "Then Judas threw the money onto the floor of the Temple and went out and hanged himself."

This whole sordid "Plejaren" thing is proof that "the world" will believe, and fall for anything - except GOD'S Truth!

We refer our readers to the article, Discovery of the "Talmud Jmmanuel" which insists: "For one, its title involved Jmmanuel (i.e., Immanuel, spelled with a J symbol supplying the "i" sound in place of the Aramaic/Hebrew letter "Ayin") rather than Jesus or Y'shua." We, at The Refiner's Fire suggest that the "J" came from the mind of Swiss "discoverer" of the Talmud Jmannuel, Eduard Meier, who wrote the Germanic "I" which looks like "J"....

This article goes on to say: "In 1976 Meier learned that Rashid and his family were assassinated in Baghdad, making him (Meier) the only known surviving witness to the TJ's discovery and historicity." Gee, how convenient that there are no other witnesses!

At The Meier Case Today we find: "The situation today is virtually unchanged from 10 or 15 years ago, except that the teachings Meier has received have been accumulating into an ever greater bibliography. Because some ufologists have mistakenly assumed the UFO aspects of Eduard Meier's experiences to be a hoax, the case remains unsettled." The "case remains unsettled" because it reeks of HOAX! These people should get together with the Raelians a UFO cult led by Claude Vorilhon who was supposedly visited and enlightened by a four-foot alien from the Planet Elohim in 1973. Meier and Rael seem to have some things in common....

"Meier continues to have contacts, mostly of a telepathic nature, with different ETs from the region of the Pleiades, though only occasionally and not nearly as frequently as in 1975-77." Perhaps he'd care to tell his alien friends to contact us, at The Refiner's Fire? Seeing is, after all, believing.

Has anyone ever noticed that the one thing these cults all seem to have in common is that they all insist on using the Bible in one way or another in order to "prove" their respective points? Nobody ever uses the Koran or the writings of Buddha, etc. - Their main enemy is always Yahweh (which, in turn tends to prove His existence)! This is exactly what Meier and the "gaiaguys" have done, and consequently, their ideas are nothing new.

Enough said. At "gaiaguys", they are literally the "blind leading the blind". Unfortunately, there are many who choose to blindly follow their "ear-tickling" garbage. The Bible warns us that, in the end times, there would be false prophets and teachers - and those who are willing to follow them into oblivion.