Dear Refiner's Fire...


Dear Refiner's Fire,

The reason I am sending you guys an email is because I read a passage in the Bible (Revelation 12:13-17) that seems to prophesy the Holocaust. Let me quote this passage.

"And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child (If you read all of Revelation 12 this woman represents Israel and the man child represents Jesus/Yeshua). And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a times, from the face of the serpent. And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood (Not only did the Nazi armies flood Europe, they always tried to exterminate the Jews whenever they conquered an area). And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth (The vast majority of the world's nations during World War 2 declared war on Nazi Germany) and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth (Anyone who does not believe that Satan inspired the Nazis will never be able to understand why the Holocaust occured). And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ." (Revelation 12:13-17 King James Version with my comments in parenthesis)

Even if you do not agree with me that Revelation 12:13-17 talks about the Holocaust, on your website you have shown that God used the Holocaust to cause the Rebirth of Israel, when the whole world felt sorry for the Jewish people. Sadly, there are some Christians who seem to think the Holocaust was God's judgement on the Jews for rejecting Christ. Nothing could be further from the truth. Satan used the Holocaust in a last-minute attempt to prevent the rebirth of Israel. And what makes me, as a Christian, sad is how the Jews have been persecuted for centuries by those who claimed to be followers of Jesus/ Yeshua.

According to Revelation 12:17 the dragon, after being thwarted by the earth itself in his mad attempt to annihilate Israel, fights "against the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ."

Not many Christians today keep God's commandments. Many churches are in a sad state today and we always are hearing about religious scandals. And also, I sincerely doubt that Jesus or Paul or any other one of the apostles would want to eat pork (which is popular item in many church fellowship meals).

So, in closing, I am convinced that Revelation 12:13-17 prophesies the Holocaust and how the nations of the world thwarted Hitler's (and Satan's) plans by declaring war against Nazi Germany, which was swallowed up by the allied nations. Whether or not you agree that Revelation 12:13-17 prophesies the Holocaust, God still used Hitler's stupidity to further his cause.

Sincerely, Andrew


Our Response....


Dear Andrew,

You might be right, and I especially appreciate your comment:

"Sadly, there are some Christians who seem to think the Holocaust was God's judgement on the Jews for rejecting Christ. Nothing could be further from the truth. Satan used the Holocaust in a last-minute attempt to prevent the rebirth of Israel.

Most people are like lost sheep; they'll believe anything. Therefore, it's a small wonder that so many people are under the impression that the Holocaust was God's judgment on the Jews! Many - especially the "white supremacists" believe that "the Jews" killed Jesus and that's why the world should hate them. I always ask them to re-read those particular scriptures describing His death so that they can see for themselves that, while the Jewish rabbis were certainly responsible for initiating Yeshua's death (1) there was a "mixed multitude" of people who were in the crowd who spat and threw stones and harassed Him; (2) the Gentile Romans were the ones who flogged and beat Him half to death; and (3) the Gentile Romans actually nailed Him to the cross.

Satan must be laughing his rear end off because it's so easy to lead people astray! Satan has been leading people away from the Truth forever - and it's working! Traditional Jews have stubbornly chosen to remain blind to the "New Testament" and Yeshua - never mind that He was foreshadowed throughout the Tanach ("Old Testament); while Christans believe "Jesus nailed the entire Torah to the cross" and don't have to do a thing but "believe". There are so many Jews who blindly follow their rabbis and don't bother to delve into the Tanach themselves, and consequently miss "the rest of the story"; and at the same time, many Christians don't bother to read or study the whole Truth of the Bible, and are blindly following their off-the-mark pastors without question. It seems most people either just don't care, or have simply chosen to turn a deaf ear and a blind eye to the Truth according to the Bible.

I was saved in a small Baptist church, and practically from the moment I accepted Christ, I felt there was "something missing" or just "plain wrong" in the church; unfortunately, since I'd never read the Bible (I was born Jewish but not raised in the faith), I wasn't sure exactly what was bothering me. (Looking back, the Holy Spirit was trying to show me that the Christian church had totally misinterpreted the teachings of Paul and negated the "Old Testament" by insisting "the law was nailed to the cross"; and most were totally blind to the fact that basically the entire Bible is about Israel and the Jews; i.e., God never made any covenants with the Gentiles - but through His love and mercy He did allow the believing Gentiles to be "grafted in".

Although the Bible is very straightforward about this, for some reason most Christians simply overlook the fact that Yeshua was a Torah observant Jew! I just recently watched a show with a Catholic flavor on TV about Jesus, in which someone said: "The reason God sent us Jesus was to give us the hope of peace and love upon the earth." There was nothing about His being our Final Sin Sacrifice - which was the REAL reason He was sent! No - He's all about "love and peace", and apparently pleased with the paganism man has forced upon Him in that little box we have relegated Him to rule and reign from....

YOU SAID: And what makes me, as a Christian, sad is how the Jews have been persecuted for centuries by those who claimed to be followers of Jesus/ Yeshua.

It's Satan, pure and simple. He's used plenty of people to deceive the world. Man has been using his limited, human mindset to try to understand the things of God, and whenever things don't go man's way, his carnal nature comes out and innocent people get hurt. Hardly anyone one stops to think that ALL is going exactly according to God's grand plan! If Yeshua had NOT been killed, then His purpose on earth would not have been fulfilled and the world would not have had a Final Sin Sacrifice. If God had NOT punished the Jews' disobedience by disseminating "into the nations", word of Yahweh and Yeshua would have remained a big secret within the confines of tiny, little Israel....

And now, the Books of Daniel and Revelation are unfolding before our eyes. God is using the Spirit of Islam to usher in His end times scenario. If you haven't done so, I invite you to read our article about the Mark of the Beast.