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Reader question for Moriel Ministries:
Shalom.
There is a Netzari/Messianic website that grabbed my attention for more than a month or so. They are believers in Yeshua ha Mashiach of course, but they place extreme emphasis on Torah obedience.
My family and I, whom are former Catholics would like to join the Messianic Movement, but we need some discerning teachers to help caution us from believing just any website that claims to be authentic. While this website has based its teachings directly from the Scriptures, I need to be sure whether they're serving Yahweh's divine interests. The website is www.therefinersfire.org. Please gaze upon just some of the articles on this Netzari website and please let us know if you would endorse it.
Shalom U'vrachot.
Jacob Prasch's response:
Greetings in Jesus.
Thank you for your question which we will post on our website without your name or personal details.
The Torah is fulfilled in Yeshua and cannot be truly observed anyway since 70 AD; the Law is not able to function biblically (the Greek term in the New Testament for this incapacity to function is "katargeo"). Much of what is called "Torah observance" as practiced today is, anyway, Talmudic observance originating not in Scripture but in rabbinic tradition, or merely cultural customs adopted from "yittishkeit" (Ashkenazi diasopric Jewish culture).
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The Refiner's Fire's Response:
Since when does "fulfilled" mean "abolished" or "done away with?" Yeshua even said He came NOT to abolish but to fulfill, and that until "heaven and earth pass away, not on yud or stroke shall pass from the Torah! What part of that is too hard to understand?
Matthew 5: 17 Don't think that I have come to abolish the Torah or the Prophets. I have come not to abolish but to complete. 18 Yes indeed! I tell you that until heaven and earth pass away, not so much as a yud or a stroke will pass from the Torah - not until everything that must happen has happened. 19 So whoever disobeys the least of these mitzvot and teaches others to do so will be called the least in the Kingdom of Heaven. But whoever obeys them and so teaches will be called great in the Kingdom of Heaven. 20 For I tell you that unless your righteousness is far greater than that of the Torah-teachers and P'rushim, you will certainly not enter the Kingdom of Heaven!
Has everything that "must happen" happened yet? Have "heaven and earth passed away? If not, then it seems believers are supposed to BE Torah observant today! YHWH Himself said so - He even reiterated this FOUR TIMES in the following:
Numbers 15: 13 "'Everyone who is native-born must do these things in this way when he brings an offering made by fire as an aroma pleasing to the LORD. 14 For the generations to come, whenever an alien or anyone else living among you presents an offering made by fire as an aroma pleasing to the LORD, he must do exactly as you do. 15 The community is to have the same rules for you and for the alien living among you; this is a lasting ordinance for the generations to come. You and the alien shall be the same before the LORD: 16 The same laws and regulations will apply both to you and to the alien living among you.'"
Please re-read the above in case you missed it: Any Torah-less non-Jew/Hebrew/Israelite who does not yet believe in the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is an "alien"/foreigner. However, if they do wish to accept Him, then they are to do exactly as those who are already belong to Him!
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Prasch continues....
Observance is optional for Jewish believers and their families for cultural, testimonial, and devotional reasons according to the conscience and culture of the individuals. We cannot judge others either for their observance or personal choice not to be observant (Romans 14:4-5, Colossians 2: 16-20).
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The Refiner's Fire's Response:
Since when is it a "personal choice" as to whether or not to obey YHWH? Yes, we cannot "judge others" for their choice, but we are commanded to "rebuke them sharply" whenever they are teaching off the mark doctrines. The following scripture, with footnote, was borrowed from the Aramaic English New Testament by Andrew Gabriel Roth:
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Titus 1: 12. One of them, a prophet of their own, said, "The Cretans are always liars, evil beasts, idle bellies." 13. And this testimony is true. Therefore rebuke them sharply that they may be sound in the faith 14. and may not throw themselves into Jewish fables and into the precepts of men who hate the Truth. 15. For to the pure, everything is pure; but to them who are defiled and unbelieving, nothing is pure; but their understanding is defiled, and their conscience. 16 And they profess that they know Elohim, but in their works they deny him; and they are odious and disobedient and to every good work reprobates.
A persistent charge is levied against the Renewed Covenant for being anti-Semitic; this is, of course, is wholly remarkable when we consider that every writer, except perhaps Luke, was in fact Jewish! Still, the charge continues due to some very strong language; language that must be considered both carefully and in its proper historical and cultural context. Perhaps the largest source of misunderstanding comes from not appreciating the vociferous manner in which Jews are known to debate. If we fast-forward this verse two thousand years, we now interpret the invectives through our own modernity, but a good preview of how certain statements can be easily misunderstood is right here in Titus 1:10-16. If a Jewish person didn't know better, they would wince and cry "Ouch!" The reading here is in fact accurate, but there is much more to this passage than first meets the eye. First, the line about "Cretians are always liars" is from a Greek poet, Epimenides, who often wrote in an exaggerated theatrical style. Even today, the term "cretin" survives in English and is a holdover from those times, meaning the same thing. Also, since Paul is Jewish and following "all righteousness" it's impossible that Torah is the object of his rebuke as "fables" and "commandments of men"! The same can be said of Jewish mysticism, which we have seen Paul teach on a variety of levels.
What then are these "Jewish fables"? According to Charles Ryrie: Jewish myths; speculations of a Gnostic sort, supposedly based on OT scripture. Ryrie Study Bible (NASB), p. 393. The key is in the highlighted portion of the above passage, "they profess to know Elohim, but in works deny him" for by this very description, Paul has named the heretical sect. "Gnosticism" is derived from the Greek gnosis, "to know." What is often overlooked is that Gnosticism did not originate with Christianity, although later adopted by many Messianic themes. Rather, it began as a Jewish sect with their own "myths and fables." According to Professor Ryrie: The heresy of Gnosticism had begun to make inroads among churches in John's day. Among its teachings were: (1) knowledge is superior to virtue; (2) non-literal sense of Scripture is correct and can only be understood by a select few; (3) evil in the world precludes God being the only creator; (4) the incarnation is incredible because deity cannot unite itself with anything material such as a body (Docetism); and (5) there is no resurrection of the flesh. The ethical standards of the Gnostics were low… (Ryrie Study Bible (NASB), p. 440). Is it any wonder then why Paul was upset at these false teachers? Even a conventional Pharisee would take great offense to such posturing, and they most certainly did with four of these five articles of belief. These false teachings are, of course, diametrically opposite to Paul's own teaching as a "ringleader" of the Netzarim, so there should be no surprise when he takes these false teachings to task. In any case, one can easily see how modern readers, divorced from the historical context, can easily draw the wrong conclusion and not take into account who the speaker is, and who the intended audience is.
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Prasch continues....
Any mandatory observance or erroneous belief that Judaic observance is a key to congregational sanctification or spirituality is a blatantly false teaching (Colossians 2:20-23). Moreover, placing non-Jews under such false legalistic teaching is what the Epistle to the Galatians was written in large measure to in no uncertain terms refute. Galatians calls non-Jews caught up in this deception "foolish" and says they were "betwitched"; calling it a subtle form of witchcraft (using a Greek term meaning "to put the evil eye on" or "to enchant with a spell" as in "to mesmerize"). It is spiritual seduction away from simplicity in Christ.
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The Refiner's Fire's Response:
Obviously Mr. Prasch needs to be reminded of some simple basics: There were no Jews until Jacob begat the Tribe of Judah, where the word "Jew" comes from. (See Gen. 29:35.) None of the Patriarchs (Abraham, Isaac or Jacob) were Jews - and neither were Cain and Abel who offered sin sacrifices (Gen. 4:3-7), or Noah who knew the difference between "clean and unclean" (Gen. 7:1-3) …. Nobody was a "Jew" until the Tribe of Judah, and yet EVERYONE up until that time who believed in the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob was TORAH OBSERVANT!
YHWH's commands have nothing whatsoever to do with "Judaic observance" or legalism, no matter how many scripture references Mr. Prasch cares to present. YHWH gave us His Torah consisting of divine rules for holy, moral, righteous living. Without His Torah, man would have NO blueprint for a righteous life! Without His Torah, we would have no way of knowing what "sin" is because sin is transgression of Torah (Leviticus 4:13; 1 John 3:4).
YHWH's "forever" commands to observe the Seventh Day Sabbath and the Biblical Feasts, etc. weren't negated with the death of Yeshua. Why would they have been? When our children grow up and leave home, does that mean the rules for proper behavior that we taught them went out the window and are automatically discarded? No! "Forever" didn't end last Tuesday! "Do this forever; thus saith the Lord" has nothing to do with "religion"...Neither YHWH nor His Son gave us "religion"; they gave us commands for holy living!
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Prasch continues....
Placing non-Jews into this contradicts 1 Corinthians 7:17-20 and Acts 15 instructing that diverse peoples within the Body of Christ retain their own cultural and ethnic identities, only being required to abandoned those aspects of a non-Jewish culture that are Pagan or immoral as specifically defined by the New Testament.
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The Refiner's Fire's Response:
Really? How so? Are Gentiles not "ger" (foreigners/aliens) mentioned in Numbers 15:13-16? Since when does ethnic identity have ANYTHING to do with obedience to YHWH? Since when does He suggest ethnicity, race, color, or traditions negate the need to obey His "forever" rules? Below is an excerpt from Carmen Welker's book, "Should Christians be Torah Observant?":
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When read in context, we see an entirely different picture about Acts 15; one that shows that the apostles were seriously discussing which of the commandments should be the first observed by Gentile believers entering the kingdom. Let's examine just a few verses:
Acts 15: 19 "Therefore, my opinion is that we should not put obstacles in the way of the Goyim (Gentiles) who are turning to God. 20 Instead, we should write them a letter telling them to abstain from things polluted by idols, from fornication, from what is strangled and from blood. 21 For from the earliest times, Moshe has had in every city those who proclaim him, with his words being read in the synagogues every Shabbat."
Remember, Gentiles in Paul's day were exposed to Torah on a weekly basis at synagogue, and so Paul surmised that observation of these four rules would ultimately lead to proper obedience of all of the Torah. Therefore, the apostles chose the following commandments for Gentiles to begin observing which included abstaining from:
things polluted by idols
fornication
animals that had been strangled
blood
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Prasch continues....
Another problem with such practices is that it lifts up Jewishness instead of "Yeshuaness" (you see this at most of their "Messianic Conferences"), and attempts to rebuild the wall of partition Yeshua died to break down (Colossians 3:11 and Ephesians 2:11-15). Unto salvation believing Jews and grafted in believing non-Jews are spiritually one in Christ; it is based not on birth but rather on Second Birth.
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The Refiner's Fire's Response:
What does that even mean "Jewishness instead of "Yeshuaness"? Yeshua never came to abolish His Father's Torah! He Himself OBSERVED the Torah to the Letter and showed mankind how to do it properly. What Yeshua attempted to abolish was NOT Torah, but the "rabbinical stuff" added by the rabbis which stood in the way of YHWH's Word!
What Prasch is suggesting above is that God's Word has been rendered null and void through the atoning death of Yeshua (the SON who did not have authority to change His Father's rules, and who even prayed to the Father and said He was nothing without Him!) Prasch, the Jewish, Hebrew speaking evangelist" is merely regurgitating the typical Christian mantra that "Jesus nailed it to the cross" without knowing what was nailed to the cross - which was simply our certificate of debt and the need to kill innocent animals to atone for OUR sins....
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Prasch continues....
The very sad fact of the matter is that 70% of the existing Messianic Movement is run by ignorant kooks who are as illiterate in biblical doctrine as they are in the false Talmudic Judaism they emulate. Many cannot even speak Hebrew. It is a joke. Most simply combine "yittishkeit" and rabbinic legalism with hyper-charismatic extremism. Avoid such folly. Some of these actually urge Gentiles to undergo circumcision, and a few even endorse ritual conversions to Judaism. There are even some (particularly in Israel) who are neo-Ebyonite - rejecting the full deity of Christ. It is a confused movement, too much of which has clearly lost a biblical compass for its sense of direction. Some Messianic leaders are by biblical definition full-blown heretics.
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The Refiner's Fire's Response:
"Seventy percent of the existing Messianic Movement is run by ignorant kooks who are as illiterate in biblical doctrine as they are in the false Talmudic Judaism they emulate." While there certainly are many off-the-mark Messianic teachers (Satan is everywhere!), we challenge Prasch to show us a valid scientific study to support his unfounded allegation! And then we suggest he fall on his knees and repent for the above remark because he is guilty of committing blasphemy by referring to YHWH as "Gawd" or "Lord", and by calling His Son "Jesus" and insisting believers are allowed to pretend the Scriptures are a Smorgasbord where one can pick and choose as to which "forever" commands one wants to ignore!
Furthermore, it doesn't matter whether one can "speak Hebrew" as long as one "gets" the fact that YHWH is God and He gave us rules to follow.
"Some of these actually urge Gentiles to undergo circumcision"...The only appropriate response here is DUH! (Please read Genesis 17:10-14) What part of "Thou shalt" does Mr. Prasch not get? The following is a footnote on Galatians 2, from the AENT:
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Unlike the contemporary traditions of Judaism in Paul's day, a soul who follows Mashiyach is not immediately forced to be circumcised once they show interest, as this is something that is done according to the intent of a person's heart. Circumcision is a voluntary choice, just as it would also be unthinkable to force someone to be immersed (baptized). Every soul must willfully volunteer to fulfill their obligations as their soul is being matured by the Ruach haKodesh. Paul clearly indicates that the requirement for circumcision has in NO way been negated. Circumcision is a demonstration of Faith and Obedience when a person does so according to the leading of the Ruach haKodesh (Holy Spirit), but NOT on the basis of social, peer, or status quo pressure.
...Some seek "justification" through observance of Torah, others seek it by not observing Torah; both pursuits are based on man's religion. The answer is to observe Torah in YHWH and His Mashiyach and live righteously as Y'shua did. Put trust and Faith in YHWH, not in works or religion, but as co-laborers with Mashiyach!
...Awraham was circumcised at age 99 after receiving the commandment directly from YHWH; therefore, each adult also must first be called and agree to enter into Covenant with YHWH. The Shlichim/Apostles did not require or demand circumcision for new converts without first the study-faith context and intent of the heart. To be circumcised before having FAITH in YHWH was contrary to the halakha (way to walk) of Y'shua and the Netzarim, but not contrary to the Oral Law and customs of the Pharisees. New converts to Y'shua from the sect of the Pharisees were attempting to bring their customs into the Body of Mashiyach, which was and is unacceptable.
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Prasch continues....
In fairness, there are thankfully some good Messianic congregations, and some are moderately observant (my own family are Israelis and are observant). In addition to a Messianic fellowship on Shabbat we are members of a multi-ethnic local church attended by both Jews and non-Jews. The church teaches the prophetic purposes of God for Israel and the Jews and rejects replacement theology and anti-Zionism as false doctrine. The Messianic meeting, however, is in addition for fellowship with believing Jews and things like Passover Seders and Hanukkah parties used as evangelistic outreach to the Jewish community, but that is all.
Scripture does recognize areas and circumstances of partial exception, but these are always biblically qualified. If a person of one culture is a missionary or evangelist to another culture, "acculteration" as an evangelistic strategy is biblical (1 Corinthians 9; Hudson Taylor did this in China). But arbitrary adoption of an alien culture to the loss of one's own culture is not "acculteration" but rather "assimilation" and is forbidden by 1 Corinthians 7.
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The Refiner's Fire's Response:
Scripture never suggests that believers in YHWH will be allowed "exceptions" when it comes to His rules! "Acculteration" has nothing, whatsoever to do with being Torah observant. EVERY culture can keep the Seventh Day Sabbath and the Biblical Feasts, and they can eat kosher foods!
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Prasch continues....
The situation of non-Jewish believers in Israel living in a Jewish national society is again a different situation ecclesiologically also, but that does not apply to your situation. Additionally, if someone marries a Jew and has Jewish children as in the Book of Ruth or as in the case of the parents of Timothy in the New Testament it is a special case of a cross-cultural marriage where, like Ruth, one becomes a Jew by marriage because of the matrimonial and family bond. Likewise there may be special considerations in cases of child adoption. But there is a big difference between a family bond and matrimonial bonding and a twisted religious bondage to the Law of Moses already fulfilled in Yeshua and no longer truly operative but rather corrupted by man-made rabbinic tradition.
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The Refiner's Fire's Response:
Again, what does the "word salad" above, which is clearly designed to impress, have to do with YHWH's commands to KEEP HIS TORAH?
"I give you good instruction: Do not forsake my Torah" (Proverbs 4:2). Paul reiterated this when he said: Does it follow that we abolish Torah by this trusting? Heaven forbid! On the contrary, we confirm Torah. (Romans 3:31)
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Prasch continues....
Our best advice is to find a good Bible-based church that is not replacementist, that recognizes God's prophetic and salvific agenda and covenant promises for Israel and the Jews, that is supportive of Israel without compromising evangelism and the Gospel, and that prays for Israel and the salvation of the Jews. Don't join this crazy congregation that you describe. Having been saved out of the demonic deception of Roman Catholicism you will simply be exchanging one ludicrous form of religious bondage for another.
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The Refiner's Fire's Response:
(1) Bible-based church? Is he referring to the church that has changed the Name of our Jewish Savior along with the dates of His birth, death and resurrection, and ignored His commanded "forever" Feasts in favor of their own man-made "holy days" of Christmas and Easter? The very church that meets on Sunday instead of the Seventh Day Sabbath which is a SIGN between YHWH and His people?
Exodus 31: 13 "Speak also to the children of Israel, saying: 'Surely My Sabbaths you shall keep, for it is a sign between Me and you throughout your generations, that you may know that I am the Lord who sanctifies you."
Exodus 31: 16 "Therefore the children of Israel shall keep the Sabbath, to observe the Sabbath throughout their generations as a perpetual covenant. 17 It is a sign between Me and the children of Israel forever; for in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, and on the seventh day He rested and was refreshed.'"
Notice YHWH is speaking to the "children of Isael" - and who are the children of Israel? Anyone who belies in the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob! Same God, same rules....YHWH SAID SO! (Numbers 15:13-15)
(2) Perhaps Mr. Prasch forgot that YHWH's New Covenant was made not with the Gentiles, but with the Torah observant Houses of Israel and Judah (Jeremiah 31:32)? Nowhere does YHWH ever suggest that Torah was only for "the Jews" - on the contrary, it's for Israel and Judah. Israel is comprised of ANYONE who accepts YHWH and His Son Yeshua. Gentiles are grafted in to the Olive Tree (Israel) only through their belief in Messiah, and therefore, they MUST be Torah observant! Paul even says that the grafted-in branches don't have the right to change the rules!
Romans 11: 16 "… And if the root (Isra'el) is holy, so are the branches. 17 But if some of the branches were broken off, and you (Gentile) - a wild olive - were grafted in among them and have become equal sharers in the rich root of the olive tree, 18 then don't boast as if you were better than the branches! However, if you do boast, remember that you (Gentile) are not supporting the root (Isra'el), the root is supporting you. 19 So you will say, 'Branches were broken off so that I might be grafted in.' 20 True, but so what? They were broken off because of their lack of trust. However, you (Gentile) keep your place only because of your trust (in the Messiah)."
And again, YHWH told Israel: "For I have given you a good teaching; do not forsake My Torah!" (Proverbs 4:2, Stone Edition of the Tanakh)
(3) At the risk of "sounding defensive" The Refiner's Fire is not a "crazy congregation!" We are a teaching website, hosted by knowledgeable, intelligent and humble Bible scholars who are attempting to reveal Biblical TRUTH to the world! We adhere only to the Scriptures instead of man-made opinions - and we are not afraid to speak out against false teachings such as the ones found on Mr. Prasch's site. We challenge Mr. Prasch to show us BIBLICALLY how any of our articles are off the mark!
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Prasch continues....
Having said that, the New Testament just as the Old is a Jewish book given through the Jews, and to be properly interpreted must be understood that way. While non-Jews have no obligation to celebrate Hebrew Feasts, etc., it is indeed important to understand how these feasts foreshadow and typify Christ and the New Covenant. It is important to understand how and why the Jewish authors of the New Testament were inspired to write as they did grasping the Jewish "Sitz im Leben" (cultural background) of the Scriptures. It is important for spiritual growth to understand how the Old Testament illustrates New Testament truth. We are told in 1 Corinthians 3 and Hebrews 6 that those who do not grasp the New Covenant in light of the Old have a spiritual diet of milk, not meat - they only eat baby food impeding spiritual growth. This is a prolific problem in the Gentile church.
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The Refiner's Fire's Response:
Hogwash and gibberish! "While non-Jews have no obligation to celebrate Hebrew Feasts, etc., it is indeed important to understand how these feasts foreshadow and typify Christ and the New Covenant" ... As you've seen by our responses above, same God, same rules! We challenge Mr. Prasch to prove us wrong. We challenge him to show that Paul EVER negated the Torah! We challenge him to read the Scriptures through Hebrew eyes IN CONTEXT!
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Prasch continues....
Our ministry has a variety of recorded teachings and books geared to redress this problem in the church. We would also, however, point you to the Ariel Ministry directed by Dr. Arnold Fruchtenbaum. For a rich experience in solid Messianic Bible teaching you may wish to consider having your family summer vacation at Camp Shoshanna in upstate New York where you can be immersed in good Messianic theology in an atmosphere of fellowship in Yeshua with Jewish and non-Jewish believers. It is not a ministry of Moriel, but rather of Ariel and Arnold Fruchtenbaum, but it is something we would recommend highly to those in your particular kind of situation.
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The Refiner's Fire's Response:
It's no surprise that Mr. Prasch would recommend Dr. Fruchtenbaum, someone who, like himself, also suggests that Christians are allowed to make up their own rules when it comes to YHWH our God. As a matter of fact, here is a snippet of Dr. Fruchtenbaum's teachings:
The Law is a unit comprised of 613 commandments, and all of it has been invalidated. There is no commandment that has continued beyond the cross of Christ. . . . It has completely ceased to function as an authority over individuals. Arnold G. Fruchtenbaum. Hebrew Christianity: Its Theology, History, and Philosophy. Seventh Printing. (Tustin, CA: Ariel Ministries Press, 1995), 86.
Please click here for more of our expose on Dr. F's teachings.
But, by all means - although Jacob Prasch doesn't know what he is talking about when it comes to the Scriptures, do be sure and send in those donations because Satan loves to use people who know just enough to be dangerous....
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Prasch continues....
You need a biblically balanced position and a fellowship that holds to a biblically balanced position. Avoid hyper-Messianic extremists (and non-evangelistic expressions of "Christian Zionism") on one hand, and the false teachers of supercessionist error and replacement theology and anti-Zionist hypocrisy on the other. The false teaching of both extremes is rat poison.
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The Refiner's Fire's Response:
Apparently Yeshua fell into the "hyper-Messianic extremists" category, too, because He was a perfect example of a Torah observant person....To suggest we ignore His teachings is worse than "rat poison" - it is a slap in the Face of God!
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Prasch continues....
Stick to God's Word. We trust this helps.
In Jesus,
J. Jacob Prasch (Moriel)
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The Refiner's Fire's Response:
Yes, we toally agree: Stick to the Word - the Word of YHWH, not "Gawd"...But remember His Son's Name was Yeshua, not "Jesus"...If you want to worship the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, then worship HIM, not someone with a made-up name who came to replace His Father and do away with all of His DIVINE teachings!
There was much more to the correspondence between Jacob Prasch and the webmaster of The Refiner's Fire - but by now, anyone reading this exchange can see that he is totally devoid of professionalism and character - someone overflowing NOT with the Holy Spirit, but with hatred and vitriol, preferring to attack the person instead of the Scriptures to challenge their beliefs.
In his anger - two full weeks after we thought things had settled down - we discovered that Prasch had even resorted to attacking friends of The Refiner's Fire, by leaving a nasty "book review" on Amazon.com for Carmen Welker's book, "Should Christians be Torah Observant" (mentioned above) on a book he had never ordered nor read. The entire "book review" consisted of character assassination of someone he doesn't know nor has ever met, including hateful verbiage such as: "Fraudulent"..."outlandish ignorance to which she subscribes with claims that are beyond buffoonery"...."charlatans"...."academic frauds who would be laughed out of any scholarly symposium as a low-grade pack of virtual clowns"...and "devoid of common sense."
Everything that Jacob Prasch writes (including the writings of those in his ministry who act just like him, as evidenced in some of our email exchanges) reeks of demonic activity. His behavior, emails and articles speak volumes....
Mark 7: 13. And you despise the Word of Elohim, because of the tradition that you have handed down and that resemble these many things that you do. 14. And Y'shua called all the crowd and said to them, Hear me all of you and understand, 15. There isn't anything that is on the outside of a man that enters into him that is able to defile him. But the thing that goes out from him, that is the thing that defiles a man. 16. He who has ears to hear, let him hear!
....It's no great stretch of the imagination to see what's coming out of Jacob Prasch....All one has to do is to read his poisonous words to see what's really in this man's heart!
You decide if this is someone who truly represents Yeshua and knows the Word of God.
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Nobody made it up. God Himself gave us His Name, and man has had acess to it all along. Unfortunately, you'll never hear the Father's Name in most churches as they are all concentrating on "Jesus" whom they think came to replace the Father and abolish all his original Divine instructions/teachings....
. When translated into other languages, His Name loses its meaning and substance and takes away from who He actually was. Also something to consider is the fact that "Jesus" is frequently used as a cussword; however, "Yeshua" has never been defiled by "the world."
