Dear Refiner's Fire...

Hello. As you may guess, I am yet another theistic satanist emailing your site to comment. I applaud the letters you have recieved and the articles you have written yourself debunking and slating neo-nazi and pseudo satanic figures such as maxine dietrich yet I do not think you approach these letters in the right way. I myself am rather different to your average traditional satanist. This is because I do not hold any grudges as long as a person does not strike out at myself or anyone or anything close to my heart. I do not believe that a person should slate other religions as long as he does not wish to be slated himself. On your site you share the opinions of many a rational satanist by criticizing the joy of satan website, its articles and its founding members.

What I have come to dislike is the way that perfectly polite intelligent theistic satanists have written in to your site in support of this and have not lashed out against you or christianity, judaism, islam or any other religion. Yet you have insisted on lashing out against them. Why must you be so intolerant just because someone holds different beliefs which you may not necessarily agree with? They were even supporting what you believed in this case. In this way a little part of you is still carring the national socialist seed despite your alliegance to judaism. I am 23, have been a traditional satanist for 7 years, regularly attend buddhist prayer meetings, am friendly with islamic/hindu storeholders in my area, come from an atheist/wiccan mixed family, am friends with a catholic family and their friends, attend chinese healing sessions and attended a school where mixed religion was encouraged (hindu/christian/catholic/muslim/buddhist mainly). As a small child, every year I even acted in the plays based around the eastern legends of rama and sita.

So you can understand why it would not be possible for me to have a closed mind and a discriminatory nature. My motto is that if someone wants your opinion then they will ask for it. I do not believe that there is a spiritual war going on or a war coming between the forces of good and evil or between heaven and hell. Satan does not create war. Humans alone bring war to this planet by misdirected haterd and by your attitude you are encouraging them to do so....

....Truth is never absolute. No matter how much you believe it to be. It is our perception and the perception of the masses that shapes truth. For example, society once believed that mental illness was caused by posession by evil spirits, and that tooth decay was caused by gnawing worms! And yes I realize what I say applies to myself as well. However, you believe that we are in the endtimes as prophesized in the bible. I believe that we are not. Until you or I have any proof to back up our opinions then that is all they are. Opinions. Books are not proof. You cannot prove that they were written by people touched by god or jesus. Just as I cannot prove that some of the books in my collection were written by people chanelling the power of satan. This is because neither myself nor you were there at the time of their writing and we never knew who the authors were. We just have estimates.

Nothing is concrete and that is why, regardless of what some nontheistic people may say, all religions are accepted, to some degree, on faith. Which is not and never will be scientifically acceptable because to prove something it has to be observable by all. Just as you do not accept my beliefs, so will a muslim not accept yours, just I will not accept islamic beliefs, so will a buddhist not accept mine. Thats why tolerance and respect are necessary things for society. Without them, we return to persecution. The same persecution that Hitler, the KKK and the apartheid african governments utilized.

Dean

Our Response....

Dear Dean,

Thank you for writing to The Refiner's Fire!

While I totally understand what you are trying to convey, I would like for you to try to understand that I feel this website was ordained by God to bring His Truth into the world. It's not so much that we are "intolerant"; rather, it's that we are in the end times exactly as foretold in the Bible, and there isn't much time left for people to hear Truth.

Truth is, the Bible is the only document in the world that has accurately prophesied the world's events, and so far, nearly 400 prophecies have already unfolded. Each of the seven Biblical feasts (which Christians have rejected because they think "Jesus nailed it to the cross") foretold Messiah Yeshua (Jesus Christ) - and He has so far only fulfilled four of the seven.

Everything is unfolding exactly as the Bible foretold - specifically as revealed in the Books of Daniel and Revelation. That's why the time for "tolerance" is over with. Things have been set in motion and there's no turning back. God is using the Spirit of Islam to make His end times scenario happen. The Refiner's Fire is merely posting this Truth. People can take it or leave it; God gives us all that choice.

Where have "tolerance and respect" have gotten us? Is the world a better place today than it was even 50 years ago? Not hardly! As a matter of fact, man has become more decadent and hateful than ever! How "respectful" are Muslims? Nobody provoked them into perpetrating 9/11 or the other atrocities. When, in history, was man so hateful that he would arbitrarily kill innocent people on a grand scale on purpose just to "make a statement"? In the past, wars were normally between armies. Nobody went around killing on a grand scale just because they were upset. Yes, innocent people often get killed in the process of war, but nobody (except for perverted lunatics) purposely targets innocent people!

Reference the Bible prophecies that have already come true, please ask yourself how often "coincidences" can happen, especially when foretold in ONE book. For instance, the prophet Isaiah said that Israel would become a nation again and that it would happen in ONE DAY (Isaiah 66:7-8). This happened as a direct result of Hitler and the Holocaust when the world briefly felt sorry for the Jews and returned Israel to them - and in one day, exactly as prophecied. In 1967 several of Israel's neighbors including Egypt went up against tiny little Israel - and Israel WON! That's because God's hand was in it; He promised He would always protect Israel and the Jews: Genesis 12:3 and Deuteronomy 7:6-8.

Does this mean there won't be wars in Israel and that people won't be killed? Nope! It means that God will not allow anyone to take Israel away from "the Jews" ever again. Things are unfolding exactly as God knew they would and He uses whomever He wishes to make His end times scenario happen - including, as we have already seen - Hitler and his ilk.

The Bible also tells us that the entire world will one day go up against Israel (that won't be too far off, so be vigilant and don't pretend it's "coincidence" when it happens). At that point in time the "Antichrist" will appear and make peace in the world. He will make a seven-year covenant with Israel. When that happens, you can be sure you only have a few more years to decide whom you want to follow (should you happen to remain alive during that time) because, as the Bible tells us, Yeshua will return with His legions of followers to defeat the Antichrist, bind Satan and his demons, and at the end of His thousand-year reign on earth, throw Satan and his followers into the Lake of fire to burn forever....

Did you know that the Bible prophecied 2,000 years ago that, in the end times, many people would be beheaded for their belief in Christ (not shot, stabbed, choked or hanged, but beheaded)? (See Revelation 20:4.) In this day and age the ONLY people who still behead are the Muslims. You can't deny they are causing the world a lot of grief, randomly terrorizing and killing whomever suits their fancy. And they have already begun to BEHEAD....

God is using the spirit of Islam to make His end times scenario happen - whether anyone "believes it" or not. Things are happening. We are experiencing earthquakes, floods, tsunamies, tornadoes, hurricanes, fires, diseases, growing decadence on the part of mankind, etc. on the grandest scale we've ever seen - and basically all at the same time.

But we ain't seen NUTHIN 'yet! God is only just starting to reveal Himself to today's arrogant, decadent, godless, and pagan world! Believers are aware of what is about to happen. The rest of the world will be cowering in fear. The Bible foretold that these things would happen in the end times.

Man's truth might not be absolute, but GOD'S Truth is. There isn't much time left and people need to get their heads out of their butts and take a look around to find out what's really happening....

Shali